September 11, 2001
This video is spreading through the internet:
United States v. Zacarias Moussaoui Criminal No. 01-455-A Prosecution Trial Exhibits Exhibit Number P200336 Description - Collection of photographs of those killed (except of 92 victims) during the terrorists attacks on September 11, 2001. ~~ www.vaed.uscourts.gov
The Pentagon.
Lebanese boy proudly celebrates after the September 11th, 2001 attacks on the US.
A Palestinian fires his rifle in celebration as children dance around him at Ain al-Hilweh refugee camp near the port city Sidon in south Lebanon September 11, 2001.
Palestinians celebrate on September 11, 2001 in East Jerusalem.
I'm working in the Middle-East right now. Most kids in the ME play the same games me and my Greek and Canadian friends used to play - soccer (football), video games, racing bicycles, throwing water ballons...
A few kids, though, like to play other games like the one in the picture. This one is called "Let's hold an American hostage."
"Death to America, the enemy of the people"
posted by FreeCyprus at 1:46 AM
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Thank you for the memorial.
We lost many that day.
I wanted to share with your readers this wonderful article:
August 4, 2006: The Brink of Madness - A familiar place.
by Victor Davis Hanson
When I used to read about the 1930s — the Italian invasion of Abyssinia, the rise of fascism in Italy, Spain, and Germany, the appeasement in France and Britain, the murderous duplicity of the Soviet Union, and the racist Japanese murdering in China — I never could quite figure out why, during those bleak years, Western Europeans and those in the United States did not speak out and condemn the growing madness, if only to defend the millennia-long promise of Western liberalism.
Of course, the trauma of the Great War was all too fresh, and the utopian hopes for the League of Nations were not yet dashed. The Great Depression made the thought of rearmament seem absurd. The connivances of Stalin with Hitler — both satanic, yet sometimes in alliance, sometimes not — could confuse political judgments.
But nevertheless it is still surreal to reread the fantasies of Chamberlain, Daladier, and Pope Pius, or the stump speeches by Charles Lindbergh (“Their [the Jews’] greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our government”) or Father Coughlin (“Many people are beginning to wonder whom they should fear most — the Roosevelt-Churchill combination or the Hitler-Mussolini combination.”) — and it is even more baffling to consider that such men ever had any influence.
Not any longer.
Our present generation too is on the brink of moral insanity. That has never been more evident than in the last three weeks, as the West has proven utterly unable to distinguish between an attacked democracy that seeks to strike back at terrorist combatants, and terrorist aggressors who seek to kill civilians.
It is now nearly five years since jihadists from the Arab world left a crater in Manhattan and ignited the Pentagon. Apart from the frontline in Iraq , the United States and NATO have troops battling the Islamic fascists in Afghanistan . European police scramble daily to avoid another London or Madrid train bombing. The French, Dutch, and Danish governments are worried that a sizable number of Muslim immigrants inside their countries are not assimilating, and, more worrisome, are starting to demand that their hosts alter their liberal values to accommodate radical Islam. It is apparently not safe for Australians in Bali, and a Jew alone in any Arab nation would have to be discreet — and perhaps now in France or Sweden as well. Canadians’ past opposition to the Iraq war, and their empathy for the Palestinians, earned no reprieve, if we can believe that Islamists were caught plotting to behead their prime minister. Russians have been blown up by Muslim Chechnyans from Moscow to Beslan. India is routinely attacked by Islamic terrorists. An elected Lebanese minister must keep in mind that a Hezbollah or Syrian terrorist — not an Israeli bomb — might kill him if he utters a wrong word. The only mystery here in the United States is which target the jihadists want to destroy first: the Holland Tunnel in New York or the Sears Tower in Chicago .
The rest is here:
http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson080406.html
oh right, it's almost that time again
Father T & mohammed, thanks for visiting
Iraqi authorities have arrested the second most senior operative in al Qaeda in Iraq, the Iraq national security adviser Mouwaffek al-Rubaie said Sunday.
Hamed Jumaa Farid al-Saeedi, known as Abu Humam or Abu Rana, was arrested a few days ago, Mouwaffak al-Rubaie said.
He was hiding among women and children and was willing to use them as human shields during his arrest.
More here...
Father T said:
"Canadians’ past opposition to the Iraq war, and their empathy for the Palestinians, earned no reprieve..."
Yes, despite our opposition to the US involvement in Iraq and our traditional sympathy for the Palestinians, a group of Islamic extremists STILL planned to bomb key Canadian sites and assasinate the Canadian Prime Minister.
To say Canadians were "pissed off" would be an understatement...
Police arrest terrorist suspects in Toronto
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5309376.stm
Al-Qaeda calls on US to convert
Gadahn is suspected of running al-Qaeda's propaganda operation
Al-Qaeda has urged non-Muslims - especially in the US - to convert to Islam, according to a new videotape.
The call is made by a man identified on the film as "Azzam the American", a convert also known as Adam Gadahn who is wanted for questioning by the FBI.
He says ignorance of Islam leads Westerners to accept wars waged by their governments and Israel against Muslim countries.
The video opens with an introduction by al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri.
Separately, Palestinian militants who held two Fox News journalists hostage for almost two weeks last month vowed to target all non-Muslims who entered the Palestinian territories.
"Any infidel blood will have no sanctity," the Holy Jihad Brigades group said in a statement posted on the internet.
The group, which was previously unknown, had forced the captured journalists to convert to Islam at gunpoint, according to one of the released hostages.
Oh well...there's always next time:
Spain Rocks Greece 70-47 for World Title
Thank you for a touching memorial.
Hello FreeCyprus!
I saw you at Jules' blog and thought I'd stop in and say hello.
Though I must confess that I'm not overly involved in political matters (unless watching The Daily Show counts), the Cyprus situation is one that is of interest to me.
I bought a tray of figs yesterday, and whenever I eat them, I am reminded of eating them fresh off the tree for breakfast while visiting Cyprus on holiday when I was young...
Perhaps I will revisit "Hostage to History: Cyprus from the Ottomans to Kissinger" by Christopher Hitchens, which I bought and began to read some time ago...I was in the process of moving at the time and never finished it...
But enough about me...
I hope you're doing well.
Take care out there!
Your Pal,
P.S.
I had heard a while ago that video games and the like were to be banned in Greece...I wondered if that is still so.
Hello Free Cyprus!
Thanks for the reminder, we never may forget this horrible event.
As for sports, my heart beat for Greece today and I can't describe how terrible I felt. Greece was better:)) Congratulations to Spain! But Hellas forever:)))
9/11 we'll be thinking of BinLaudism and Al Killah, but let's not forget the Hesbollah scum:
A quick rundown of their greatest hits:
* The Kidnapping and torture deaths of U.S. Marine Colonel William R. Higgins and the CIA station chief in Beirut, William Francis Buckley
* The kidnappings of 30 other Westerners between 1982 and 1992, including:
- U.S. journalist Terry Anderson
- British journalist John McCarthy
- Archbishop of Canterbury's special envoy Terry Waite
- Irish citizen Brian Keenan
* The April 1983 bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut that killed 63
* The 1983 Beirut barracks suicide truck bombing in which 241 U.S.
* The bombing the new U.S. Embassy in East Beirut on September 20, 1984,(20 Lebanese and two U.S. soldiers killed)
* The 1985 hijacking of TWA Flight 847
* The 1992 Israeli Embassy bombing in Buenos Aires that killed 29 people
* The 1994 attack on the Buenos Aires Jewish community center (85 dead), followed eight days later by the car bombing of the Israeli Embassy in London
In other words, we're talking the same kind of terrorist scum that we're fighting in Iraq.
And let's not forget, Hezbollah has one other claim to fame, for you see, unlike Hamas and the PLO, Hezbollah's desire to kill Jews around the world can't be blamed on the "Palestinian Problem" because Hezbollah isn't Palestinian!
They're Lebanese!
They've got about as much business bombing Israel as the IRA would have bombing India!
Hesbollah - scum of the earth
Zambo, thanks for visiting dude.
:-)
Anyone who likes Palahniuk, Rollins and the Planet of the Apes is ok in my book.
Regarding your questiong, here's the answer:
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In 2002 the Greek government, ostensibly in an attempt to fight illegal gambling, passed the ambiguous and controversial law 3037/2002 which effectively banned all electronic games, including those running on home computers. The bill was formulated after a member of the ruling PASOK socialist party was videotaped in an illegal gambling establishment, resulting in public hysteria that was fueled by sensationalist reporting on the press and television. The bill was declared a law on July 30, 2002.
During a case against some Internet cafe owners who allowed their customers to play online chess and other games, a local court in Thessaloniki declared the law unconstitutional. More than 300 people were gathered outside the court in support of the Internet cafe owners.
The European Commission sent an official letter to the Greek Foreign Ministry explaining that the law may be in conflict with European legislation. In that case, the European Court of Justice could take action against Greece.
The law would affect both Greek citizens and foreigners.
On September 24, 2002 government officials published a document in an effort to clarify the controversial articles of the law.
After the EU intervention and debates with the Internet cafe owners, the government passed a new decision (1107414/1491/T. & E. F.), published in the Government Gazette issue 1827, on December 8, 2003. The new law clarifies some articles of 3037/2002 but it still bans video games in Internet cafes, and computer software which delete or encrypt files on hard disks of computers owned by Internet cafes.
The law is currently suspended and deprecated as anticonstitutional; therefore, it is not being enforced. (good ol' Wiki)
anon, that's quite a depressing list
cevris, always nice to see you here. Once again, sweet words from you...
Takis, well since they asked so nicely...
Tony, you're welcome. I wouldn't have forgotten.
Freecyprus:
You need to post what you have above on Iraq the Model...
This is what I am talking about:
Iraqi authorities have arrested the second most senior operative in al Qaeda in Iraq, the Iraq national security adviser Mouwaffek al-Rubaie said Sunday.
Hamed Jumaa Farid al-Saeedi, known as Abu Humam or Abu Rana, was arrested a few days ago, Mouwaffak al-Rubaie said.
He was hiding among women and children and was willing to use them as human shields during his arrest
Very interesting and something I haven't heard yet I haven't really been listening anymore!
I like your blog. Keep it up!
Hi this is a shame of us human killing one another,sad though,I could rant and rant some more but what is the use,
Wish you well
God help this world, if he finds it fit to be saved.
people claim they want peace.. yet they dont act upon their words :(
Hi there! thankyou for your compliment on my artwork. You asked me where you can buy it, I am willing to sell it to you... maybe i can send it to you through Fedex and we can arrange a price.
As for your work, I am truly amazed in the dedication you give to what you do. These blog entries are all very touching and it shows so much sympathy and sincerity you have on the people you encounter. May godspeed be with you I wish you great success...
The way you share yourself to the world is just astounding!
NATO: More than 200 killed in Taliban crackdown
POSTED: 5:50 p.m. EDT, September 3, 2006
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AP) -- Afghan and NATO forces killed more than 200 Taliban fighters in a major operation in southern Afghanistan, NATO said Sunday.
Four soldiers with the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force were killed and seven others were wounded in the fighting in Kandahar province, a statement from the alliance said.
"Reports indicate that more than 200 Taliban fighters have been killed since Operation Medusa began early Saturday morning. This figure was arrived at by reviewing information from ISAF surveillance and reconnaissance assets operating in Panjwayi and Zhari districts as well as information reported by various Afghan officials and citizens living nearby," it said.
More than 80 suspected Taliban fighters were captured by Afghan police and a further 180 insurgents were seen fleeing the district, the statement said.
NATO said there were no reports of civilian casualties, despite the heavy weight of fire being used.
An Afghan Defense Ministry spokesman, Gen. Zahir Azimi, said earlier in the day that a number of civilians were killed.
A NATO spokesman, Maj. Scott Lundy, said NATO and Afghan troops had gained ground during Operation Medusa and had disrupted the militants' command and control so their fighters were moving in a confused way.
On Saturday, a reconnaissance plane supporting the offensive crashed, killing all 14 British military personnel on board. NATO said the plane was not brought down by hostile fire.
Heard on one of the late night talk shows:
"If George Bush and Co. can successfully figure out the democracy problems in Iraq, they should return and install proper democracy in the State of Florida"
FreeCyprus...I guess you forgot this one that came out today:
American al Qaeda: U.S. should convert to Islam
"To Americans and the rest of Christendom we say, either repent (your) misguided ways and enter into the light of truth or keep your poison to yourself and suffer the consequences in this world and the next..."
"If the Zionist crusader missionaries of hate and counter-Islam consultants like Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, Michael Scheuer, Steven Emerson, and yes, even the crusader-in-chief George W. Bush were to abandon their unbelief and repent and enter into the light of Islam and turn their swords against the enemies of God, it would be accepted of them and they would be our brothers in Islam. And we send a special invitation to all of you fighting Bush's crusader pipe dream in Afghanistan, Iraq, and wherever else W. has sent you to die."
"Why not surrender to the truth? Escape from the unbelieving army and join the winning side. As for those who have expressed their respect and admiration for Islam, and acknowledged that it is the truth and demonstrated the support and sympathy for the Muslims and their causes like George Galloway, Robert Fisk, and countless others, I say to them, isn't it time you stopped sitting on the fence and came over to the side of truth? ...Abandon unbelief and accept the truth."
American al Qaeda: U.S. should convert to Islam:
www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/02/zawahiri.tape/index.html
Here another for your collection:
Radical Muslim clerics to celebrate 9/11 (AP)
LONDON — Extremist Muslim clerics will meet in London on Sept. 11 to celebrate the anniversary of the attacks on the United States and to launch an organization for Islamic militants, an organizer of the conference said Saturday.
Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed of Al-Muhajiroun, a radical group that supports making Britain an Islamic state, said the conference will argue that the terror attacks were justified because Muslims must defend themselves against armed aggression.
The event at Finsbury Park mosque in north London, "Sept. 11, 2001: A Towering Day in History," will also mark the launch of the Islamic Council of Britain.
Mohammed said the council will aim to implement Sharia law in Britain and will not exclude al-Qaida sympathizers from membership.
The conference will discuss the "positive outcomes" of Sept. 11, which delegates perceived as a battle against an "evil superpower," he said.
"I did not praise Sept. 11 after it happened but it becomes more clear now why they did it, although I personally regret the loss of life," he said.
Mohammed said he had secured a six-figure sum to fund the Islamic council, which would build a dozen Islamic centers, launch a Web site and hold classes for Muslims.
"We will not stop al-Qaida people from joining. To us they are devoted people who were trying to stop the invasion of a Muslim country," Mohammed said.
Also due to attend the meeting on Wednesday are Yasser al-Sirri and Abu Hamza al-Masri, a cleric at the Finsbury Park mosque, which is widely regarded as a center of radical Islam in Britain.
Al-Sirri has been accused by the United States of sending money to Afghanistan to sponsor terrorism. British officials in July dropped extradition proceedings against him, saying there was not enough evidence.
Al-Masri is one of Britain's most contentious Muslim radicals. The Egyptian-born cleric, who lost his hands and left eye fighting in Afghanistan, is a prayer leader at the mosque.
He has had British citizenship since 1985, and is protected by British law from extradition to Yemen, where he is wanted in connection with several bombings.
Mainstream Muslim leaders have criticized previous conferences held by Al-Muhajiroun and other extremist groups, saying that their radical anti-American opinions did not represent the views of the majority of Britain's 1.5 million Muslims.
God Bless America.
you got it boy, God Bless America
Gunman kills UK tourist in Jordan (Mon Sep 4, 2006 8:20am ET)
By Suleiman al-Khalidi
AMMAN (Reuters) - A lone gunman opened fire on a group of foreign tourists in the Jordanian capital Amman on Monday, killing a British man and wounding six, an official and a witness said.
Jordanian government spokesman Nasser Joudeh denied earlier reports that the attack was carried out by two men, one of them an Iraqi. He said the gunman, a Jordanian, had been arrested and was being questioned.
Joudeh told Reuters the wounded were three Britons, a Dutch national, a New Zealander and their Jordanian tour guide.
"One British citizen has died as a result of his injuries and the others are receiving treatment," he said.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=TopNews&storyID=2006-09-04T122336Z_01_L04200624_RTRUKOC_0_US-JORDAN-SHOOTING.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C1-TopStories-TopNews-2
anon, yes quite sad. "the wounded were three Britons, a Dutch national, a New Zealander and their Jordanian tour guide."
scruffy american, may God bless everyone, not just America
takis, thanks for visiting. No, I didn't "forget" those but thanks for posting them
Intensemystery, Iraq The Model already beat me to it. That site is clearly pro-US but a good read non-the-less...
zingtrial, yes it's a shame but don't lose the faith - it will get better. It has to get better...
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No, this isn't about Iraq, but since when do my comments stay on topic? (some of you can find a link between Afghanistan and Iraq I'm sure...)
A major NATO offensive in Afghanistan has led to fierce fighting. As many as 200 Taliban fighters -- and four Canadian soldiers -- have been killed, according to NATO. It's described as the most significant NATO offensive since it took over command of the southern region from U.S. forces at the end of July.
Carlotta Gall of The New York Times, talks to Steve Inskeep about the latest developments.
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CANADA 0 - Taliban 72
THAT score I can live with.
(I see my next post being about Afghanistan....)
Afghanistan's opium harvest is set to increase by nearly 60 percent this year due to a massive jump in cultivation in the insurgency-hit south, the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) said.
It's not just because Afghanistan's south is so poor...that's one reason for sure. But it's because the radical-Islamist Taliban in certain areas of the south encourages it...
AFGHANISTAN: Opium harvest set to increase by 60 percent - UN report
We still have the Washington Post special from that day, kinda creepy to look at.
Turkey is the only Islamic Nato State
The Balance is difficult.........
A REGION INFLAMED: ISTANBUL; Turkish Police Arrest Suspects in Attacks on British Sites
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By CRAIG S. SMITH
Published: November 22, 2003
At the funeral of Nazmi Harmankaya, 35, who was killed Thursday, an imam called for Muslims to ''be united in their prayers against such insane attacks.'' But among the crowd of men that gathered to pray around the coffin wrapped in a Turkish flag, there was bitterness for what American policy has wrought.
''The attacks are a warning that we are Muslims and shouldn't get involved with America and Europe,'' said a local soccer coach at the cemetery where Mr. Harmankaya was buried. ''If the government keeps on being close to the West, if they continue talking about the E.U. and the U.S., these attacks will continue.''
But later in the conversation he reflected the complexity of Turkey's situation. ''We're Muslims, and so how can I feel part of the West?'' he asked, ''But if Turkey turns its back on the West, how can we survive?''
He said Turkey had to maintain a perfect balance between the Middle East and Europe, adding, ''Whenever we put more weight on one side or the other, we get hit.''
A REGION INFLAMED: ISTANBUL; Turkish Police
ergo te lina said "The attacks are a warning that we are Muslims and shouldn't get involved with America and Europe,"
At my table during lunch in high school and university...sat Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist and Jewish friends.
We saw each other as Canadians only.
Our table was always inviting, always welcoming...some, though, always refused the invitation and choose to sit with "their own kind"
Take the invitation...involvement is always better than isolation.
:-)
lina, i mean the article mentions that, not you
Woozie, always good to see you on my blog. You're right man, totally creepy.
The whole situation is a mess. I am a against all war. Ive protested in every demonstration since Viet Nam.
It is terrible that children are taught to hate.
We are now more than every the ugly Americans.
I weep for my country.
Such a sad day. The world felt sorrow for us and we turned it to hate.
Thank you for stopping by my blog. Please don't be a stranger!!
C, God will help this world BECAUSE he sees it as "fit to be saved"
Brotherhoood said: "people claim they want peace.. yet they dont act upon their words"
Many of them ARE acting upon their words, each and every day.
Susan, to be against all war isn't the way to go. War is hell but sometimes there are battles worth fighting. Battles that, had you not faught, would have led to more deaths, more pain, more beatings, more rapes, more suffering, more genocide...
Sometimes NOT fighting is immoral.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
-- English philosopher Edmund Burke
Islam the religion of peace:
"....Kill those who join other gods with Allah wherever you find them; besiege them, seize them, lay in wait for them with every kind of ambush...."(Sura 9:5).
"When you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads, until ye have made a great slaughter among them...."(Sura 47:4).
"....Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in Allah, or in the Last Day, and who forbid not what Allah and His Apostle have forbidden....until they pay tribute..." (Sura 9:29).
"Say to the infidels: If they desist, what is now past shall be forgiven them; but if they return, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it Allah's." (Sura 8:39).
"Proclaim a grievious penalty to those who reject faith." (Sura 9:3)."
The Sura, a chapter in the Koran
"I will kill every American that I see in Afghanistan, and while I am in Pakistan, if I see them in Pakistan, I will kill every American soldier I can in Pakistan,"
(Mohammed Junaid Babar.
Longtime resident of Queens, N.Y. reacting to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He told a television network that his own mother had been one of the survivors — barely escaping from the ninth floor of one of the towers before it collapsed.
Yet, Babar said in that same interview from Pakistan in the fall of 2001, his “loyalty is to the Muslims, not the Americans.")
** Muhammad's War Against the Jews **
It's often argued that Islam’s hostility towards Jews is a recent development stemming from the establishment of the state of Israel, the inspiration of European anti-Semitism, and/or the distortion of the writings of Muhammad, “the Prophet.” History shows otherwise. Muhammad himself ethnically-cleansed Medina of Jews, as I wrote in my most cited blog entry, last year.
The denial of Muhammad’s treatment of the Jews takes many forms: it didn’t happen, it was understandable, or it was a one-time exception.
The first form of denial is common among Westerners; recently published books omit the complete story, if they tell it at all. Past scholars were duty-bound to present the full history even as they disagreed on its meaning; I examined a case in point in last year's article.
Islamic critics of my depiction of Muhammad’s actions against the Jews, generally argue that it was understandable – the Jews brought it on themselves. This is often touted as a moderate viewpoint! Since Muhammad didn’t do this out of bigotry, hatred, or malice, the argument goes, Islam is moderate – the Jews only have to behave and they haven’t ever since. This viciousness speaks for itself.
Let’s see what Edward Gibbon says about Muhammad and the Jews in his history of the Roman Empire:
The choice of Jerusalem for the first kebla of prayer discovers the early propensity of Mahomet in favour of the Jews; and happy would it have been for their temporal interest, had they recognized, in the Arabian prophet, the hope of Israel and the promised Messiah. Their obstinacy converted his friendship into implacable hatred, with which he pursued that unfortunate people to the last moment of his life; and in the double character of an apostle and a conqueror, his persecution was extended to both worlds. (135)
He seized the occasion of an accidental tumult, and summoned them to embrace his religion, or contend with him in battle. "Alas!" replied the trembling Jews, "we are ignorant of the use of arms, but we persevere in the faith and worship of our fathers; why wilt thou reduce us to the necessity of a just defence?" The unequal conflict was terminated in fifteen days; and it was with extreme reluctance that Mahomet yielded to the importunity of his allies, and consented to spare the lives of the captives. But their riches were confiscated, their arms became more effectual in the hands of the Mussulmans; and a wretched colony of seven hundred exiles was driven, with their wives and children, to implore a refuge on the confines of Syria.
** Muhammad's War Against the Jews **
Ethnic cleansing is achieved either by expulsion or genocide. He drove out the first Jewish tribe. Other Jewish tribes realized that conflict was inevitable.
The Nadhirites were more guilty, since they conspired, in a friendly interview, to assassinate the prophet. He besieged their castle, three miles from Medina; but their resolute defence obtained an honourable capitulation; and the garrison, sounding their trumpets and beating their drums, was permitted to depart with the honours of war.
The Jews had excited and joined the war of the Koreish: no sooner had the nations retired from the ditch, than Mahomet, without laying aside his armour, marched on the same day to extirpate the hostile race of the children of Koraidha. After a resistance of twenty-five days, they surrendered at discretion. They trusted to the intercession of their old allies of Medina; they could not be ignorant that fanaticism obliterates the feelings of humanity.
At this point apologists try to soften criticism of Muhammad by blaming his associate for the final solution.
A venerable elder, to whose judgment they appealed, pronounced the sentence of their death; seven hundred Jews were dragged in chains to the market-place of the city; they descended alive into the grave prepared for their execution and burial; and the apostle beheld with an inflexible eye the slaughter of his helpless enemies.
Their sheep and camels were inherited by the Mussulmans: three hundred cuirasses, five hundred piles, a thousand lances, composed the most useful portion of the spoil.
It didn't end in Medina:
Six days' journey to the north-east of Medina, the ancient and wealthy town of Chaibar was the seat of the Jewish power in Arabia: the territory, a fertile spot in the desert, was covered with plantations and cattle, and protected by eight castles, some of which were esteemed of impregnable strength. The forces of Mahomet consisted of two hundred horse and fourteen hundred foot: in the succession of eight regular and painful sieges they were exposed to danger, and fatigue, and hunger; and the most undaunted chiefs despaired of the event. The apostle revived their faith and courage by the example of Ali, on whom he bestowed the surname of the Lion of God: perhaps we may believe that a Hebrew champion of gigantic stature was cloven to the chest by his irresistible cimeter; but we cannot praise the modesty of romance, which represents him as tearing from its hinges the gate of a fortress and wielding the ponderous buckler in his left hand. (136)
After the reduction of the castles, the town of Chaibar submitted to the yoke. The chief of the tribe was tortured, in the presence of Mahomet, to force a confession of his hidden treasure: the industry of the shepherds and husbandmen was rewarded with a precarious toleration: they were permitted, so long as it should please the conqueror, to improve their patrimony, in equal shares, for his emolument and their own. Under the reign of Omar, the Jews of Chaibar were transported to Syria; and the caliph alleged the injunction of his dying master; that one and the true religion should be professed in his native land of Arabia. (137)
Gibbon, like every historian, has had to rely solely on Islamic sources. One can question their veracity but usually one expects the devout to have a bias in favor of the religion. The description above suggests that Muslims traditionally accepted this narrative; but it might have been worse.
William H. McNeill in his classic 1963 text, The Rise of the West, [p442] describes very briefly Muhammad’s relations with the Jews:
When it became clear that Mohammed could not win the support of the Jewish colony in Medina, he instructed his followers to drive the Jewish farmers from the oasis. He then distributed their land among the faithful. But the community of believers grew so rapidly trough the adherence of outsiders that this entirely failed to solve the economic problem. Territorial expansion beyond the oasis of Medina was the next step. Accordingly, Mohammad’s followers quickly subjugated another Jewish oasis settlement situated some miles north of Medina. This time, however, the victorious Moslems refrained from driving the Jews from their lands, but instead compelled them to pay tribute to the Moslem community, which the Prophet then distributed among the faithful according to their needs and deserts. This incident provided the model for subsequent dealings between Moslem conquerors and their Jewish or Christian subjects, who as “People of the Book” were allowed to retain their own religion, customs, and institutions as long as they paid tribute.
Thus, prior to the PC era (politically correct era) it was common to explain, not explain away, Muhammad's ethnic-cleansing. The policy became contingent upon the refusal to submit to Islamic rule but it remains a back-up option for recalcitrant Jews. Today it is the goal of major Islamic leaders in both Shiite and Sunni communities. In the decades after WWII, close to one million Jews were ethnically-cleansed from Tangier to Tehran with two-thirds settling in Israel.
In a vast land stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to the Hindu Kush, Muslims find it intolerable that even this tiny sliver of land remains in Jewish hands. The legacy of Muhammad lives on.
(before you get excited...I am neither American, Israeli nor Jewish)
The difference between the caring West and the evil-hearted IslamoFascists is clear.
NATO/Cdn troops pick up the wounded, even if they are the enemy Taliban/druglords
We pick up the enemy's wounded and we try to save them.
Check this out:
"Shortly after the enemy fled into the neighbouring village, reports of injured starting coming in, which meant it was our time to get busy. The only injured were the enemy, proving the value of our armoured vehicles once again. Regardless of which side the injured were fighting on, our job as medics is to sustain life.
In this case the injured enemy was on the other side of a mud wall and could not be easily moved because of seven bullet wounds."
You put a link to Cpl. Sanders' writings. Good for you
wow this is a tad of a fast forward.
9-11 still leaves a raw feeling with me. I've reached the point where I can no longer watch the documentaries or the movies or the interviews because it continues to stir up such deep emotions and I'm still very saddened at the thought of it. I will always remember the confusion and fear that I felt that day.
Thank you for remembering.
At least it's comforting to know that many who celebrated the attacks are now dead themselves. I hope everyone of them rots in hell.
The Saudis must be shaking in their whites right now.
** NO WONDER they're dumping oil on the market (so are Nigerians and Argentinians) **
WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. oil and gas reserves could grow by more than 50 per cent as three companies said Tuesday that results from a deep-water exploratory drilling project in the Gulf of Mexico indicate a significant oil discovery.
Chevron Corp. (NYSE:CVX) estimated the 777-square-kilometre region where its test well sits could hold between three billion and 15 billion barrels of oil and natural gas liquids. Analysts are calling it the most significant domestic discovery since Alaska's Prudhoe Bay more than a generation ago.
It will take many years and tens of billions of dollars to bring the oil to market, but the discovery carries particular importance for the entire industry at a time when western oil and gas companies are finding fewer opportunities in politically unstable parts of the world, including the Middle East, Africa and Russia.
Muslims are so afraid of any criticism or analysis of their religion of DEATH that I found many Islamic sites warn muslims to "AVOID THESE MUSLIM SCHOLARS"
Here's one list:
1. Khaalid Al-Anbaree
2. Rabee bin Hadee Al-Madkhali
3. Abdulaziz aal Shaykh
4. Abdurahman as Sudais
5. Shakiel Humayun
6. Saleh al Fawzan
7. Aid al-Qarni
8. Zaki Badawi
9. Sa'ad al Barek
10. Yusuf al-Qaradawi
11. Sayyid Tantawi
12. Saleh ibn Ghanem as Sadlaan
13. al-Bouti
14. Hamza Yusuf Hanson
15. Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi
16. Dr. Abdul Hakim Jackson
17. Dr. Ahmad Shleibak
18. Dr. Akbar Muhammad
19. Dr. Deina Abdulkadir
20. Shaikh Hassan Qazwini
21. Dr. Ihsan Bagby
22. Dr. Jamal Badawi
23. Dr. Muhammad Adam Sheikh
24. Shaikh Muhammad Al-Hanooti
25. Shaikh Muhammad Nur Abdallah
26. Dr. Salah Soltan
27. Dr. Taha Jabir Alalwani
28. Shaikh Yahya Hindi
29. Shaikhah Zainab Alwani
30. Dr. Zulfiqar Ali Shah
31. Dr. Mukhtar Maghraoui
32. Dr. Nazih Hammad
33. Hisham Kabbani
34. Shamsi Ali
Why should Muslims avoid reading the works of these scholars?
What are radical Islamofascists afraid of????
What is previous anonymous trying to say, is he against Islam in general or just against "islamofascists", who I presume are violent islamic fundamentalists and radicals? Or are all muslims "islamofascists"? If that's the point they're making, then anyone could easily refute that statement.
Hello Again.
I hope all is well.
Thanks for the response to my question! I appreciate it. (I suppose I should have looked it up myself)...
Take care out there!
Your Pal,
Zambo.
Yesterday was the anniversary
for the
Munich Olympics Massacre
Today the Turkish Pogrom
against the Greek minority
in Instanbul(1955)
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ergo te lina, thanks for putting up the link. I've been working long hours lately and haven't been able to post everyday like in the past (I guess that's why I prematurely posted 9/11 and left it there)
I watch ERT and RikSat daily and get daily reminders from family (why didn't you post something about it). I'm going to put up a post now.
We should remember those atrocities every day I guess...
Let's remember these ones too:
Systematic persecution and genocide of the Jews and other minority groups of Europe and North Africa during World War II by Nazi Germany and its collaborators
The Armenian Massacre – the forced mass evacuation and related deaths of hundreds of thousands or over a million Armenians, during the government of the Young Turks from 1915 to 1917 in the Ottoman Empire
Genocide and ethnic conflict in Israel and Palestine
More than 2,800 Canadian soldiers, sailors and Air Force personnel are deployed overseas on operational missions. On any given day, about 8,000 Canadian Forces members - one third of our deployable force - are preparing for, engaged in or returning from an overseas mission.
Since 1947, the CF has completed 72 international operations. That figure does not include current operations, or the many CF operations carried out in Canada.
Here is a list of all current Canadian Forces operations
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I believe in making the skies safe for me and my family...but this is ridiculous...
Orthodox Jew forced off plane
urban butterfly: ok I won't :-)
pal Zambo: my pleasure. See you in the blogosphere.
Anon 10:35 PM, I agree. If what the scholars are saying is hogwash and your faith is strong...no need to be afraid.
Wooz: I think he's asking the radical Islamists why Muslims in general should be afraid to read these scholars...
Amazing news for America and The West!
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4165848.html
as one analyst said:
"Up to a million barrels a day...displacing a Saudi Arabia"
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From Uncommon Truths
It is important to remember that regardless of the casualties that we suffer, we are making real progress alongside our NATO allies in transforming Afghanistan into a peaceful and democratic society, one that respects human rights and the rule of law. It is a terrible thing that young men and women should have to fight and die against terrorists who simply refuse to contribute to making the world a peaceful place. We did not choose it to be this way. But we must carry on in spite of it.
Preliminary reports indicate that we've killed at least 89 terrorists who would have otherwise spread death and misery onto innocent Afghanis. This also means that we've inflicted thirty times more casualties upon them than they have on us, and that's without even knowing the numbers of their wounded.
Canadian Heroes does a great job of collecting news stories about the war on terror in Afghanistan
http://www.cnheroes.blogspot.com/
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When his body arrived in Quetta, Pakistan, many of his hometown residents welcomed him like a hero.
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FBI Most Wanted Terrorists
Hi Fr
I ll make something
i don' t know when...
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Do you know a list with the Greek-Americans killed in 9/11?
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According to
www.september11victims.com
CONFIRMED DEAD: 2,948
REPORTED DEAD: 24
REPORTED MISSING: 24
TOTAL: 2,996
Here is a complete list of each and every victim of the September 11, 2001 attacks....
stiltwalker: Yup, you're right. I didn't want to put up a post commemorating the 9/11 tragedy for just one day, then move on to another topic the following day.
kat: thanks for visiting. Yes many died that day and we should remember each and every one of them.
American Crusader: I always tell my non-Muslim friends not to judge all Muslims based on the actions of the nut-jobs. Then that day we turn on the TV and see Palestinians, Syrians, Lebanese, Iranians, etc (the list goes on) dancing in the streets celebrating the 9/11 attacks on the US.
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Insurgent attacks ripped across Baghdad on Thursday, killing at least 19 people, and four bodies were found dumped in the capital -- killings that bore the hallmarks of sectarian violence.
The bodies were found in different neighborhoods, police said. The dumping of bodies has been linked with Sunni-Shiite retribution killings.
The bloodiest attack happened in southeastern Baghdad, where at least 10 people were killed and several others wounded when a suicide car bomb exploded near Iraqi emergency police headquarters in the Alwiya neighborhood, emergency police said.
Three vehicles and nearby shops were damaged in the blast. Police said officers were refueling their vehicles in an industrial area just behind the police station when the attack took place.
In northern Baghdad, three people were killed and 13 others wounded when a car bomb exploded near a joint patrol of police and army officials in the Qahira neighborhood Thursday morning, a Baghdad emergency police official said. (Watch what happens on a deadly day in Baghdad -- 1:35)
In central Baghdad, a suicide car bomb detonated outside a fueling station close to the Iraqi Interior Ministry Complex in the central Baghdad Bab al-Shurji district, Baghdad emergency police officials said. A source told CNN that two police officers were killed and 23 others were wounded, including six police officers.
In the southern Baghdad neighborhood of Dora, two police officers were killed in a drive-by shooting. Three police officers were wounded when two roadside bombs exploded there.
A civilian was killed and four police were wounded when a roadside bomb struck a police patrol in western Baghdad. Also in western Baghdad, gunmen killed a doctor at al-Yarmouk Hospital while he was on his way to work.
Five Iraqi police were wounded when a mortar round hit their patrol in Yarmouk.
And gunmen kidnapped the nephew of the Iraqi parliament speaker in northwestern Baghdad Wednesday night.
Ahmad Mashhadani, the nephew of Mahmoud Al-Mashhadani, was abducted in Hurriya neighborhood, police said.
Iraq begins 'new chapter'
The increase in violence comes as the Iraqi government prepares to begin assuming direct operational control of its military forces from the coalition, an event that underscores the long-term effort by U.S.-led forces to transfer power to the fledgling, indigenous political apparatus.
A ceremony is planned for Thursday. It was to have been held last Saturday, but was delayed because of technical concerns and questions from Iraqi officials.
Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, U.S. military spokesman, said on Wednesday at a press conference that the government will immediately assume control of the air and naval forces and an Iraqi army division.
"This significant event marks a new chapter in Iraq's history, as it marks the formal transfer of control of Iraqi armed forces from the coalition forces to the government of Iraq," according to a U.S. military statement last week.
They will take control of more divisions in the coming months, Caldwell said.
U.S. soldiers killed
Two American soldiers were killed in action on Wednesday in Iraq, the U.S. military said Thursday.
A U.S. soldier was shot and killed "while executing a mission near Hawija" in northern Iraq. The soldier was from the Task Force Band of Brothers -- 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division.
The other soldier was killed "due to injuries sustained from enemy action while operating in Anbar province" -- west of Baghdad. The soldier was assigned to the 1st Brigade, 1st Armored Division.
The killings brought the number of U.S. military deaths reported in the Iraq war to 2,663.
Politician: Reconcile or nation collapses
A top politician warned Wednesday that the country will collapse by year's end if warring groups fail to reconcile.
Parliament Speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, a Sunni Arab, urged his colleagues to support national reconciliation, the prime goal of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's government.
"We have three to four months, and if the country does not survive this, the boat will sink," al-Mashhadani said during a parliament session after some lawmakers criticized parliamentary procedures.
Al-Mashhadani's remarks resonated as sectarian strife has escalated between Sunnis and Shiites since the February bombing of Al-Askariya Mosque, a Shiite shrine in Samarra. (Watch as a new interior minister tries to crack down on security problems -- 2:42)
On Wednesday, 34 bodies were found dumped in Baghdad, all showing signs of torture, a mode of killing that authorities believe is sectarian-related.
The discovery came a day after seven bullet-riddled bodies were found in Baghdad and two days after 40 bodies turned up in the same condition, a police official said.
A Pentagon report issued Friday found that more than 1,600 people were killed in cold-blooded "execution-style" slayings in July alone, a new high. (Full story)
Freecyprus,
Doesn't it concern you that Iraq may split and the very conservative Shiites will take over and might even link up with Iranian beliefs? It concerns me that may end up being the case...that we might have loosed a devil.
Greece captain Zagorakis plans to quit
By Barney Spender
ATHENS, Sept 7 (Reuters) - Greece captain and most-capped player Theodoros Zagorakis is to retire from international soccer, the head of the Greek Football Federation Vassilis Gagatsis said on Thursday.
The 34-year-old, who led Greece to victory in Euro 2004, had been toying with retirement for several months but had been persuaded to stay on by Gagatsis and coach Otto Rehhagel.
However, after being substituted at halftime in the friendly match against England last month and again in the Euro 2008 qualifier against Moldova on Saturday, Zagorakis has indicated he is ready to step down.
"For as long as I'm at the federation, I'd want Theodoris at the national team, at any post. It's a fact that he wants to stop," Gagatsis told Greek radio.
"He's realised that his time has come. He knows his limits. We're in the process of looking to create a post for him which he'd like to have, too. We want him to be a part of the squad every time it gathers. He was a natural leader."
Zagorakis, who will continue to play club soccer for PAOK at least until the end of this season, made his debut for Greece 12 years ago.
He has gone on to make a record 118 appearances as an influential midfielder, scoring the first of only three goals in his 101st appearance, a 2006 World Cup qualifier against Denmark.
Zagorakis, who has also played for English club Leicester City, AEK Athens and Bologna in Italy, is expected to make a farewell appearance with Greece in their Euro 2008 qualifier against Norway in Athens next month.
© Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved. | Learn more about Reuters
Nice post Free Cyprus, I like how you show diffrent sides. American, and parts of the middle east.
I just shuddered reading your post today.
I feel a deep deep sadness for the victims.
Thank you FC
The Grand Zero is going to
be rebuilt?
Susan, as we say in Canada about wars and about our men and women who died in them: "Least we forget"
Almira, thanks for visiting and the compliment.
ETL, here's more info on Ground Zero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_site
Intensemystery, seems like there is already a bloody civil war there. Gangs of Sunnis are killing Shias. Gangs of Shias are killing Sunnis. The police force just issued brand new uniforms as the current ones have been copied numerous times and you can find a copied Iraqi police uniform in any market.
Since the majority of the police force is Shia...Sunni death squads dress up as Iraqi police and enter Shia neighbourhoods and go on killing sprees...
In Flanders Fields
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders Fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders Fields.
- John McCrae
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This is the famous poem that every child in Canada learns (or should be learning). We hear it read on the radio and on TV during every November 11th (Remembrance Day)
Veterans Affairs Canada
"I was heaping scorn on an inexcusably silly idea -- a practice I shall always follow.
Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -- and thoroughly immoral -- doctrine
that 'violence never settles anything' I would advice to conjure up the ghost of Napoleon
Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it.
The ghost of Hitler could
referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon.
Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any factor, and the contrary
opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always
paid for it with their lives and freedoms."
-- Robert A. Heinlein ~ "Starship Troopers"
freecyprus,
I came upon this site that is ver interesting and though you might enjoy it. Although you may already know about these things.
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/ENLIGHT/ENLIGHT.HTM
At first I thought you were a spammer, I am really sorry about that!
Thank you for stopping by my site; I hope it won't be the last time!
Thank you also for a very good memorial! Pictures often speak louder than words, and your tribute is a smack in the face to the apathetic.
damn good memorial
You're right "Lest We Forget"
Oh and another thing - let's not judge all muslims by the actions of the criminal-minded.
A Muslim wants to rebuild "Ground Zero"
your blog has made me 'think' beyond images.
By Tabassum Zakaria
NEW YORK, Sept 10 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush made a pilgrimage to New York's Ground Zero on Sunday on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, a milestone that has sharpened an election-year debate over whether America is safer.
Under gray skies, Bush and his wife Laura, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, and state Gov. George Pataki walked together into the flag-bedecked site where the twin World Trade Center towers had stood.
The somber-looking Bushes laid wreaths into two dark pools of water in the footprints of the north and south towers, which collapsed in 2001 after two hijacked airplanes smashed into them, and bowed their heads in silence. Bagpipes played "America the Beautiful."
At a prayer service at nearby Trinity Church-St Paul's Chapel, Bush later sat among mourners that included Arlene Howard, who in 2001 gave Bush the badge of her son George, a Port Authority Police officer killed on Sept. 11.
The fifth anniversary, coming two months ahead of elections in which Democrats hope to wrest control of Congress from Bush's Republicans, has triggered a partisan battle over whether the country is vulnerable to a second Sept. 11 and whether the Iraq war is a distraction from efforts to eliminate al Qaeda and its leader, Osama bin Laden.
Outside the World Trade Center site, several dozen people held up banners and shouted, "Arrest Bush Now," "Bring the Troops Home" and "Stop Exploiting 9/11."
"This visit is another political ploy for Bush to try to sound like he is strong on security when our country is much less safe," said 77-year-old protesters Ann Muyskens.
Vice President Dick Cheney and other top administration officials sought on Sunday to promote what they say is progress in protecting America against another attack.
Democrats countered the administration had used the attacks for political gain, underlining the bitter divisions that have emerged since the attacks on New York and Washington killed nearly 3,000 people and united the nation in grief.
"HELLUVA JOB"
Cheney told NBC's "Meet the Press" that five years with no repeat attacks in the United States proved the government had succeeded in disrupting al Qaeda.
"We've done a helluva job here at home in terms of homeland security," Cheney said.
Bush's approval ratings soared and his presidency was altered forever after he stood in the ruins of the World Trade Center days after the 2001 attacks and sought to rally the country by shouting into a bullhorn.
But his approval ratings slid as U.S. casualties in Iraq rose, and many Americans now have doubts over his security policies. ABC News said a poll it conducted found the number of Americans who think the country is safer now than four years ago had dropped to 52 percent from 88 percent previously.
Democrats charge the Iraq war has sucked away billions of dollars that could have helped improve domestic security.
Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said Bush had used the attacks for political gain ahead of November elections in which Democrats see a good chance to take control of one or both chambers of the U.S. Congress from Republicans.
"They think they can't win the elections unless they talk about terrorism all the time," he said on Fox News, adding the administration had got bogged down in Iraq when it should have been going "full-scale" after bin Laden.
The Washington Post reported on Sunday that the trail for bin Laden had gone "stone cold" and that U.S. commandos looking for him have not had a credible lead on his whereabouts in more than two years.
In a two-day tour of all three Sept 11. crash sites -- the World Trade Center, Pentagon and the field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where United Flight 93 crashed -- Bush will strive to put aside partisan acrimony, if only temporarily.
He will save his formal remarks for a televised Oval Office address on Monday night.
(Additional reporting by Thomas Ferraro in Washington and Christine Kearney in New York)
A muslim wants to rebuild WTC? Well do you have a real link? that's just a link to a forum
I don't think New Yorkers care if a muslim says "I want to rebuild ground zero"
New Yorkers and the US would be satisfied if muslims just said "we will fight terrorism"
In the top side of the forum is an article about the NY-artist Roustam Nour
and secondly what you asked about
APOLOGY FOR 9/11-FREE MUSLIMS AGAINST TERRORISM
why are you so concerned with muslims apologizing for 9/11?
is it your way to get the mind off the terrorists who killed so many people?
what do you feel about all the people who died in 9/11 - that is what we are rememembering...
today at Ground Zero in New York, they will read the names of the almost 3 THOUSAND people (from countries all over the world) who were murdered by Islamic extremists on September 11, 2001.
The reading of all the names is expected to take over 3 hours
Thank you for a wonderful, sweet memorial.
We should never forget those innocent victims of terrorism, not just here but all over the world. I guess they couldn't get their religion onto everyone with peaceful means so now they want to use violence.
why do they want to kill me?
what did i do
:-(
this is not all because of American, Israeli and "foreign intervention". Iraqis need to take responsibility for what's happening in their country. If there are foreigners, we invited them
Security developments in Iraq,
10 Sep 2006 17:06:48 GMT
Source: Reuters
Following are security and other developments in Iraq reported on Sunday, as of 1700 GMT:
*TUZ KHURMATO - Four oil workers from Iraq's biggest refinery at Baiji were killed by gunmen as they drove close to the northern town of Tuz Khurmato, hospital and police sources said. A fifth man was wounded.
ISHAQI - A roadside bomb killed an Iraqi soldier and wounded three others in Ishaqi, 80 km (50 miles) north of Baghdad.
BAGHDAD - Police said they found more than a tonne of explosives at an electronics company in Baghdad's Karrada district after a gunbattle in which three men guarding the premises were killed. Brigadier Khaled al-Obeidi said an al Qaeda leader, Abu Jaafer al-Libei, narrowly escaped. A car bomb exploded in the street as police were leaving, killing three and wounding 14 people, mostly policemen.
FALLUJA - The chief of traffic police in Falluja, Brigadier Ahmed Diraa, was ambushed and shot dead in his car by gunmen, police said.
BAGHDAD - Three people were killed and 15 wounded when a bomb exploded in a popular market in Bab al-Sharji in central Baghdad, police said.
BAQUBA - Clashes between two Sunni and Shi'ite districts in the town of Baquba 65 km (40 miles) north of Baghdad killed five people and wounded 14, police said, adding that mortars had been fired during the violence.
BAQUBA - Gunmen killed police General Majeed al-Mani and two of his bodyguards while he was on a shopping trip in Baquba, police said.
FATHA - Iraqi soldiers killed four insurgents when they repelled an ambush on a road near the town of Fatha southwest of Kirkuk on Saturday, the Iraqi army said.
BAGHDAD - A roadside bomb exploded near a police patrol, wounding two policemen in eastern Baghdad, an Interior Ministry source said.
MOSUL - Gunmen killed a barber in the northern city of Mosul on Saturday, a hospital official said.
FALLUJA - One civilian was killed and another wounded in an exchange of fire between insurgents and a U.S. patrol in Falluja, local police said.
OTHER DEVELOPMENTS
BAGHDAD - Parliament delays debate on a divisive draft law on creating new federal regions after Sunni politicians accuse Shi'ite parties of "hurrying through" the Shi'ite-sponsored bill. The first reading of the draft will now be on Sept. 19
TEHRAN - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki could delay his first official visit to Iran on Monday by one or two days, Iraqi and Iranian officials said. Iraq's envoy to Tehran blamed the delay on "technical reasons".
Sad day indeed.
No one will ever forget it just as no one has ever forgotten Pearl Harbour.
Pearl Harbour also made us stronger.
People seem to have forgotten Pearl Harbor pretty much, we don't do moments of silence or even half-staff flags where I live. Just became another ordinary day with time, much like 9/11 will (eventually) in my opinion.
Pearl Harbour forgotten? Hardly.
I'm in second year university and we did a survey about "what's another time America was attacked?"
(we just went around campus asking all types of students, whether they looked "left" or "right", if there is such a look)
88% of 403 students polled here said "Pearl Harbour"
Also my highschool history class, most kids were aware of the significance of Pearl Harbour. Basically I think it will always mean "we got attacked that day"
But, yeah, you're right, we don't do the moments of silence or the half-staff things. But it's there in our minds, imho
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Support for terrorism is falling among Arab and European Muslims, according to the 2006 Pew Global Attitudes opinion poll.
Syrian director Najdat Anzour is dramatizing that opinion for a mass audience in his Ramadan special.
Anzour's message is not subtle: Terrorists are cold-blooded killers who also kill Muslims.
Read more here...
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Anti-Semitism in Europe
There's a bitter dispute over the European Union's alleged suppression of a report blaming a new wave of anti-Semitism on Muslim youth and on anti-globalization activists. An EU poll found that nearly 60 percent of its citizens believe Israel is the greatest threat to world peace.
Over the last three years, across Europe, Jewish cemeteries and synagogues have been attacked and Jewish students beaten. The violence has been blamed on young Muslim males whose anger is fueled by what they see as Israeli oppression of Palestinian Arabs.
The anti-Semitic incidents come against the backdrop of Germany's attempts to finally move beyond its Nazi past.
"What do the people who worked in those two (World Trade Center) towers, along with thousands of employees, women and men, have to do with war that is taking place in the Middle East? Or the war that Mr. George Bush may wage on people in the Islamic world?" he asked me. "Therefore we condemned this act - and any similar act we condemn."HASSAN NASRALLAH"(Inside the Mind of Hezbollah)
MUSLIMS VICTIMS OF 9/11............
Samad Afridi
Ashraf Ahmad
Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children)
Umar Ahmad
Azam Ahsan
Ahmed Ali
Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children)
Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran)
Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury
Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack)
Jamal Legesse Desantis
Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan)
SaleemUllah Farooqi
Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes)
Osman Gani
Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old)
Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet)
Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom)
Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan)
Nabid Hossain
Shahzad Hussain
Talat Hussain
Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan)
Yasmeen Jamal
Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security)
Arslan Khan Khakwani
Asim Khan
Ataullah Khan
Ayub Khan
Qasim Ali Khan
Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures)
Yasmeen Khan
Zahida Khan
Badruddin Lakhani
Omar Malick
Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old)
Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old)
Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures)
Raza Mujtaba
Omar Namoos
Mujeb Qazi
Tarranum Rahim
Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old)
Ameenia Rasool (33 years old)
Naveed Rehman
Yusuf Saad
Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant)
Shoman Samad
Asad Samir
Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November)
Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan)
Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.'s Fiduciary Trust)
Jamil Swaati
Sanober Syed
Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie)
W. Wahid
http://islam.about.com/blvictims.htm
The story goes on we never learn from history
Wish you well my blog friend
Intensemystery, thanks that's an interesting link.
Brooke, yes I will visit your site again. Thanks for visiting mine. Well that was my goal: "Pictures often speak louder than words, and your tribute is a smack in the face to the apathetic. "
Susan said "your blog has made me 'think' beyond images."
Me: Any kind of thinking is good.
BPWFH said "don't think New Yorkers care if a muslim says "I want to rebuild ground zero. New Yorkers and the US would be satisfied if muslims just said "we will fight terrorism"
Me: You're half right. New Yorkers DO care if a muslim cares to rebuild GZ. But you are right that the Muslim world needs to do more to control radical Muslims.
There are radical Christians in the world but once they start coming out in the open and promoting violence, once they start coming out in the open and start promoting anti-social activities, Democratic countries have shown to be more effective than Islamic countries in controlling.
We all remember David Koresh and his nutty followers and what happened at Waco Texas...
ETL, thanks for the wonderful links.
However I'm not sure I actually saw you say you feel bad for what happened on 9/11.
What are your thoughts about the nearly 2,800 individuals who were murdered that day? I had this post up for many days as a memorial to each and every one of them...
Just curious about your personal feelings regarding their deaths...
harmony, no we should never forget. I think I understand how you feel. Many in Canada wondered the same thing when it was discovered that a group of Toronto-born Muslims were planning to kill large numbers of Canadians at key sites.
One poster here and somewhere else said it best [I'm paraphrasing here]:
"After Canada rejected the US entry into Iraq, after Canada has traditionally been pro-Palestinian, after Canada has traditionally been a welcoming country for all races, colors and religions...even this didn't save her. Radical Muslims STILL planned to attack her and her citizens."
I've said this before and I'll say it again. It's not up to the non-Muslim world to understand moderate Muslims. We already do.
It's up to moderate Muslims to stand up against radical Muslims who use violent intimidation, beatings and murder to further their goals.
Salam said "this is not all because of American, Israeli and "foreign intervention". Iraqis need to take responsibility for what's happening in their country. If there are foreigners, we invited them"
Me: you're right Salam.
Takis said: "No one will ever forget it just as no one has ever forgotten Pearl Harbour. Pearl Harbour also made us stronger. "
Me: I'm too young to remember Pearl Harbour. I hear my parents talk about it sometimes. Pearl Harbour means the following to me: "Japan woke up a sleeping giant"
The US was going to enter the war anyway so Japan figured on a first strike. It just pissed off the giant and made him fight with more ferocity. Pearl Harbour motivated and unified the US more than any US politician or European war newsreel could have had.
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Grim Outlook Seen in West Iraq Without More Troops and Aid
WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 — The political and security situation in western Iraq is grim and will continue to deteriorate unless the region receives a major infusion of aid and a division is sent to reinforce the American troops operating there, according to the senior Marine intelligence officer in Iraq.
The assessment, prepared last month by Col. Peter Devlin at the Marine headquarters in Anbar Province, has been sent to senior military officials in Iraq and at the Pentagon.
While the American military is focused on trying to secure Baghdad and prevent the sectarian strife there from escalating into a civil war, the assessment points to the difficulties in Anbar, a vast Sunni-dominated area of western Iraq where the insurgency is particularly strong. The province includes such restive towns as Ramadi, Haditha and Hit.
Marine commanders have been mounting a campaign to secure the province in the face of a virulent insurgency. But they have had to cope with seriously short-handed Iraqi Army units and a Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad that has tended to view the area as a low priority for government spending and programs.
Elements of the assessment were reported Monday in The Washington Post. Military officials familiar with the document disclosed additional material and provided several quotations from the assessment.
One factor that has hampered the American counterinsurgency effort has been the limited number of American troops. As a general rule, a substantial number of troops are required in a counterinsurgency campaign to protect the population from attacks and intimidation by insurgent groups.
Read the rest at The New York Times...
The central question for our time is not how you worship God or even whether you worship God.
It's whether you believe in this life you can be in possesion of the absolute truth and you have the right to impose it on others. We need to remember that too...
-- Bill Clinton
This applies to everyone, everywhere...in the East as well as the West
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..Wrath and anger for whom they did it
and for whom they were responsible
to prevent..
but they failed...
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ETL: fair enough answer.
This is a fascinating individual:
Convert Plays Leadership Role in Muslim Community
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Lately polls have shown that American support for the War in Iraq. But some people may be confused by that and assume American's have lots their will to fight the "War on Terrorism"
Not according to the blogs out there. This from:
http://suesviews2.blogspot.com/
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To all the terrorists hiding among us:
I will not back down. I will not be intimidated by you or anyone else. I will be diligent. I will be strong. I will fight you until there is no breath left in my body to fight with anymore, and if you take me out then my brothers and sisters will rise up and take my place.
You will find no shelter here, no sympathy or help. You think that you can fool us and take advantage of us. You are wrong. We will find you wherever you are. We will hunt you down and bring swift and fierce justice upon you.
Know that we are America. We are the land of the free and the home of the brave. Those words actually mean something to us. We stand by them and stand up for them. You can never comprehend what that means until you have faced it. And face it you will.
Thank you Sues.
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this from
http://amentormoment.blogspot.com/
I want to add that you Islamofacists have judged us by the MSM drivel that purports us to be tree hugging creatures from the 60’s with the spine of a Jellyfish. You couldn’t be more wrong or doomed in your pathetic thinking and endeavors against us. We have the finest military in the world, bar none. We don’t hide behind our women’s skirts or strap bombs to our children in the name of our God.
And what backs up our Military, nothing more than the majority of Americans who love Life, Liberty and our families and we carry guns and aren’t afraid to dust them off and dust you as we watch the Superbowl and drink our beers, yeah, we are Infidels all right.
You want to fight us in the streets, come on down to the South and meet our fighting men and women, our Rebels with a cause, that being to send you to your God.
Muslims for America (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
Muslims For America, previously known as Muslims for Bush, is a pressure group dedicated to introducing American Muslims into politics and ensuring US foreign policy is "written with an understanding of Islam" [3].
According to it's website, Muslims For America aims to work with the Republican National Committee, in setting up American Muslim Republican Caucuses within each US state Republican Party, in addition to building relations with the Democratic Party.
The group was founded and is funded by American Muslims of Pakistani descent, Muhammad Ali Hasan, and his mother, Seeme Gull Khan Hasan. Claiming to be bipartisan in nature, Muslims For America believe "the best foreign policy plans can mature from both the Republican Party and Democratic Party" [4]
However, some hold the view that the group is really a partisan Republican lobby organisation; one of the group's founders, Seeme Gull Khan Hasan, reportedly having "donated more than $1 million to Bush and Republican causes since the 2000 [US Presidential election] campaign" [5]. When announcing the name change from Muslims For Bush, the group stated among its aims, to "create greater friendships between American Muslims and the Republican Party" [6].
During the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict the organization faced conflicting interest between the strong support of Israel by the U.S. government and American politicians, and the general attitude of Muslims toward Israel. [1][2]
Muslims For America has consistently expressed a zero tolerance policy for any kind of terrorism, "in following the example left by Prophet Muhammad" [7].
Me and my Muslim friends are the first to condemn these cowards who use violence.
DO NOT judge me based on their actions.
Polling data from the 2001 ARIS study, described below, indicate the religious breakdown in the United States:
81% of American adults identify themselves with a specific religion:
* 76.5% (159 million) of Americans identify themselves as Christian. (52% of Americans identified themselves as Protestant. 24.5% are Roman Catholic.)
* 1.3% are Jewish.
* 0.5% are Muslim
* 14.1% do not follow any organized religion.
Why do we have this fear that Islam will take over America? Doesn't look like it to me
well let's say 5 million to 8 million Muslims in America out of an estimated population of 300 million. Even using 8 million as the number, that's about 2.6%. That's not taking into account how many of these Muslims are just "Muslim in name only and not in practice"
Here's another report:
The Muslim Population In The United States
Source: Resources for Studying Islam and the Diverse Perspectives of Muslims (University of Georgia)
URL: http://www.uga.edu/islam/muslimpop_usa.html
Date viewed: 7 April 2005
"A Brief Statement" By Fareed H. Numan, American Muslim Council (AMC), December 1992.
[The following note appears on the same University of Georgia webpage that posts features this article about the number of Muslims in America.]
Ed. note: Readers should keep in mind that it is in the interests of organizations supporting Muslim political power in the U.S. to assert that higher numbers of Muslims are American citizens. Conversely, it is in the interests of organizations that oppose Muslim political power in the US to argue for lower numbers. Daniel Pipes, in his article "How Many U.S. Muslims?, published in the New York Post, October 29, 2001, argues for lower numbers, making the surprising claim that Fareed Numan was "pressured... to find 6 million Muslims in the country; Nu'man later testified that he counted just 3 million and was fired by the AMC [American Muslim Council] when he refused to inflate his number above 5 million." For a more recent article than Nu'man's, see Muslims in America: Profile 2001 [URL: http://www.soundvision.com/info/yearinreview/2001/profile.asp] by Abdul Malik Mujahid of Sound Vision [http://www.soundvision.com/].
Muslim social scientists and researchers have spent a great deal of time trying to determine the number of Muslims in the United States. Most accept the estimate of from 5 million to 8 million. That is to say at least 5 million people in North America claim Islam as their religion and/or practice. What is represented in this report is based on estimates made in 1991, the World Almanac reports that Muslim in the United States number approximately 5,220,00. The total worldwide Muslim population is generally estimated at slightly more that 1 billion. David Barrett's publication, "International Bulletin of Missionary Research" cites a lower figure, 988,004,000.
An exact figure of Muslim population in the United States is very difficult to make. The figures presented here are based on available data.
In the United States, there are essentially three categories of Muslims: 1) immigrants; 2) American converts/reverts to Islam; and 3) those born to the first two groups as Muslims.
The immigrant population of the United States is relatively easy to document because the Immigration and Naturalization Service, the Census Bureau, and other government agencies have been keeping records of immigrants. In order to arrive at our figures, we researched the history of Muslim ethnic groups around the world and then determined their percentage as Muslim. We then correlated this percentage with the number of Muslims in the United States, which enabled us to determine the percentage represented in the overall population.
Determining the number of indigenous Muslims was more difficult. In most cases, records have not been kept by any single source. To arrive at the number of American converts to Islam, we had to look at various groups' conversion rates and compare them against their mortality and fertility rates.
This is an on-going project, and AMC [American Muslim Council] will keep the reader informed of new statistics through our quarterly publication, the AMC Report. The figures cited here represent a starting point for serious research on demographic data about the Muslim population of the United States.
[This webpage also includes two tables: "U.S. Muslim Population Table" (featuring a breakdown of the U.S. Muslim population by ethnic background), and "Geographic Distribution: Muslim State Population Table," which purports to list a "breakdown by states of the largest Muslim communities in the United States. It shows that there are an estimated 3.3. million Muslims in these states. The figure represents 62 percent of the estimated 5 million Muslims living in the United States." Non-Muslim demographers and religious statisticians consider these figures inaccurate.]
anon 7:09 PM , thanks for the stats. There is an overwhelming feeling in the US that "the Muslims are taking over" but your stats dispute that.
Also, some Muslim groups argue the numbers are much higher, that "Islam is the fastest growing religion in North America" I would argue against that as I've been reading articles and blogs indicating that church and temple attendance is steadily increasing since 9/11
This part of your post is what we need to remember:
Ed. note: Readers should keep in mind that it is in the interests of organizations supporting Muslim political power in the U.S. to assert that higher numbers of Muslims are American citizens. Conversely, it is in the interests of organizations that oppose Muslim political power in the US to argue for lower numbers. Daniel Pipes, in his article "How Many U.S. Muslims?, published in the New York Post, October 29, 2001, argues for lower numbers, making the surprising claim that Fareed Numan was "pressured... to find 6 million Muslims in the country; Nu'man later testified that he counted just 3 million and was fired by the AMC [American Muslim Council] when he refused to inflate his number above 5 million."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6054757
"Willem Marx, a former intern with the Lincoln Group, a Washington-based government contractor, tells how he took stories from the U.S. military and planted them in Iraqi newspapers."
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6056461
"Five years after Sept. 11, Americans have come to believe that political Islam is a danger to the West. President Bush uses the word "terrorist" to define not just al-Qaida, but also Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas, the winners of this year's Palestinian elections."
Amr, thanks for visiting and thanks for taking a stand.
As I've said countless times, the problem is not that we in the West "don't understand Muslims"...the problem is that moderate Muslims are not speaking up as much as they should against Muslims who kill in the name of Islam.
They are blaming the victim!
With every anniversary of the September attacks the Arab media reserve wide space to cover the commemoration of the terror attack with visible assertion from the media that what happened in 9/11 was a terror attack and no channel or paper would use a different description. Sounds good so far?
I find myself compelled to follow the responses from Arab media and commentators in the hope that I could find a change, a review of calculations or a rereading of facts that is different from the previous. But the media is keen to disappoint me every single time because after the short friendly introduction that leads into the main coverage of the terror attack I find a flood of blaming, condemnation, chastising and scorn directed against (guess who?)…the victim of course, the victim of that very terror attack!
It makes me feel there's only a fine line of shyness stopping those people from praying for the souls of the terrorists, after all they, in the mentality of the media, are also victims of America (who in turn is the victim of that same terror attack!).
As I write the first few lines of this post Omar directs me to an AFP story about the media and 9/11 which left me in shock; the nonsense spread from Arabs to Americans themselves that some in the American MSM are firing their criticism arrows at the victim, turning logic upside down in an offensive and insulting manner explaining that by saying they are searching for solutions to the problem or to avoid another 9/11. many go as far as criticizing and condemning the American administration that had only been in office for six months when America cam under the attack that'd been in planning for years which means the terrorists had no clue what that administration's policy would be like and didn't even know who was going to be in office when they started planning the attack.
You also see others who criticize the American response to the attack calling it "savage" or "brutal" which are words commonly used by the Arab media that at the same time ignores the savage brutality of the attack in the first place.
Concentrating on the response and ignoring the attack that provoked it is an act of denial and running away from reality, and concentrating on the "erroneous" American policy is something I cannot accept because it comes either from dictatorships that see a threat for them in the American policy that calls for liberty and democracy, or from fascist religious powers that see in the pluralism and tolerance that America calls for a danger to their dominance on the minds of their people, or from some American politicians blinded by ambition and care only about discrediting their opponents.
Like we said in a previous post, did Moscow's pro-Arab, pro-Islamist policy keep the Russian people safe from the hands of radical terrorists who use their extreme interpretation of religion as a cover for violence?
NO…
Now let's ask ourselves some clear questions and let's go with those critics and suppose we changed the western policy toward "central and vital" Arab and Muslim causes, the question is, will that be enough to make dictators and extremists believe in peace with the west?
I don't think so. Those dictators and extremists always seek to keep a state of low-level confrontation and to keep the possibility for war open because their dominance over their people depends on their ability to create enemies and convince their people that those enemies are whom hatred and anger must be directed at.
I'll try to clarify more and dig up the main reason for the conflict which, I believe, is the thousand year-old interpretations of Quran which were made (the interpretations) divine and holy by despotic rulers and clerics who used these interpretations of the Quran to prohibit rational thinking and obstruct the natural course of mental and cultural evolution of the society asserting that the solution is in returning to the Salaf (ancestors and their doctrine) and not in going forward, these are the kinds of interpretations that shaped the visions of the terrorists who carried out the attack and other attacks.
These interpretations state clearly without any chance for confusion what the attitude toward non-Muslims must be; either convert them to Islam, or force them to pay the Jizya (tax/tribute) or it is war and of course the idea of peaceful coexistence and mutual respect based on equality does not exist, neither do peace treaties. What exists instead is Hudna (temporary cease-fire) which ends once enough power to fight and/or eliminate the enemy is gained.
Now I wonder, if the west chose to change its policy would this encourage the interdependent clerics and dictators to change those interpretations or cancel them along with the set of beliefs derived from them?
Again I don't think so and this what makes the confrontation inevitable. Inevitable because they want it and not the "other" and no matter how the west tries to avoid it, it (war) will come to the west.
The war in fact is one between the set of ideas that seeks to pull the word back into the dark ages and the set of ideas that seek freedom of mind and wants to move human civilization forward.
Changing policies will not change the "holy" heritage which our enemies want to impose, first on us in this region to later export it and impose it on the west.
This is our war first, it's our war as citizens of this region to preserve our humanity so as not to turn into violent, death-spreading mutants.
It's the war of those of us who believe in rewriting history and breaking away from its chains and it's the war of those who look forward to liberating their minds from the dominance of totalitarian interpretations of religion, and it's your war too.
Your duty is to help save us from being smashed between the hammer of dictators and the anvil of religion so that we can take our natural place and play a positive role in this life.
And it's also your battle to stop the murderers from acquiring deadly power so that we can be sure what happened in 9/11, or something much worse, does not happen again.
Hi Freecyprus. Thanks for the comment on my blog entry on the 9/11. The hardest thing that we have to endure is that the event of the 9/11 has brought to the surface the latent hatred towards the Muslim of some Westerners and also in Canada. Moreover, since five years, a small number of reprehensible racist acts have been committed against Canadian Muslims. Unfortunately, the obsession for security have also brought discrimination in the way we apply our laws in Canada: some Muslims have been arrested without an arrest warrant (or suspected) because they were representing "a threat to the national security."
On Sunday, I watched a documentary on the situation of the Canadian Muslims and the security management towards terrorism in Canada. This documentary said that a handful of Muslims in Canada feel that they're not welcomed in my country, but I'm convinced that the majority of Canadians are not racist at all. In my opinion, the upcoming days will be tough in the History of humanity.
anon 11:53 PM, your post is a copy and paste of a post from Iraq The Model
Anh Khoi Do, I think you're right there is an underlying bit of rascism towards Muslims. Seems every society has that but hopefully those people are in the minority.
There is also an incredible amount of rascism against Jews in Europe, particularly among Muslims there but also among non-Muslims (Greece is the best example). There is also some rascism against Christians and Jews in Muslim countries, and basically rascism all over the world. However, like you, I do have faith that those people are in the minority.
As for the airport security checks and profiling and all the other crap, the majority of my muslim friends curse terrorists for the state of the world post 9/11 and for peoples' opinions towards Islam. (I would say that I have more muslims friends than the average non-muslim has...)
not even turkey is safe from these devils
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5340408.stm
"At least five of the dead were reported to be children. "
"Bomb attacks in tourist resorts and other cities in recent weeks have killed a total of 12 people and wounded dozens."
A great tribute. But I feel we must be careful not to think of all Mulims as terroists. What I see a lot of is a whole nation that are mainly of Islam being blamed for what a few did. 9/11 did take a lot of American lives but there were many others such as ETL pointed out.
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NEWS - SEPT 16, 2006
Pope sorry for remarks
Palestinian churches attacked after Pope remarks
"In the Gaza Strip, gunmen in a car pulled up outside the Greek Orthodox church compound and fired bullets over its roof. There were no immediate reports of damage.
In a telephone call, a man who said he represented "The Sword of Islam", an unknown group, claimed responsibility.
"We have just fired at one church in Gaza City. We warn that if the Pope does not go on television and apologise for the offensive comments regarding Islam and the Prophet, we will bomb the churches of Gaza," the caller said.
Most of the some 3.8 million Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip identify themselves as Muslim, while up to 2 percent are Christian. Attacks between members of the communities are rare.
"We are brothers and sisters during good and bad times in Palestine and tolerance is the common oxygen for people here -- Christians and Muslims," said George Awad, head of the Greek Orthodox church in Nablus. "
47 bodies found in Baghdad ~ Police said most of the victims were bound, tortured and killed. Twenty six bodies were found in the mainly Sunni western part of the capital with the other 21 found in eastern Baghdad's predominantly Shi'ite side
U.S. President George W. Bush on Saturday defended his proposals to allow tough questioning of suspected terrorists as necessary to keep Americans safe, despite a revolt in his own Republican Party over the issue.
Dear FreeCyprus
That 's the way Dialog has
If i talk with a muslim
probably he ll call me anti-muslim
by my questions and arguements
I have called muslims to participate
in a dialog
But Muslims don' like dialog as
the Westerners do.
That 's why,it seems me to be anti-US
but that is Free Speech
a western gift...
:)
Great Blog. Good Bless You for bringing issues of the world to the forefront.
God Bless You for remembering those that died and are dying for our country.
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Anon 2:09 AM, we haven't forgotten the 300 Spartans who died 480 years before the birth of Christ. The West will make sure no one forgets the victims of 9/11. You can count on that.
Chet, there is a minority blaming all muslims, but most of us are blaming radical, extreme Muslims who use violence and kill muslims and non-muslims who don't do exactly what they say.
Period.
ETL said "that is Free Speech a western gift"
ETL, free speech is not a gift but a RIGHT. The West has lost millions of brave men and women who have died defending it. No one gives us that "gift". It's ours at birth but sometimes it seems we have to fight for it.
C.Fatima, you're right - Turkey is not safe from terrorists. No one is safe, especially if we lay down our arms and give up on the war on terror.
One of the best selections I have seen on the blogsphere.
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Anon 2:09 AM and Let Non Arab - Muslims Live! thanks for visiting and the kind words
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